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March 1, 2007

Anheuser Busch teams with MingleNow: Can online social networks sell beer?

It is a sunny, crisp mid-afternoon, and Gurbaksh Chahal, the CEO of BlueLithium advertising network,  is wearing a stunning blue striped suit by a French designer as we walk along a dowdy part of Divisadero Street, in San Francisco. I am meeting with him and top brand management executives from Anheuser Busch, who are dressed more conservatively,  to discuss plans to use online social networks to sell beer.

The research group of BlueLithium, the second largest US online advertising network, last year came up with an idea for MingleNow. It is an online social network organized around the offline world.  

Since friends gather around the same bars, restuarants and clubs, there is a potential opportunity to create social networks built around these common points of community. (SVW: MingleNow - social networking that mingles online and offline.)

Following a private beta last year, BlueLithium is making a big push with MingleNow this year. Its goal is to have 2m active users by the end of 2007. And Mr Chahal has landed Anheuser Busch as a key launch partner for the venture.

Tom Shipley, director of Global Industry Development at Anheuser Busch explains the reasons for the alliance. He shows me charts of beer consumption over the last 35 years.

He points to the problem: beer's high point was in 1995 when it reached a  61 per cent share,  compared with hard liquor and wine. By the end of 2005 it had declined to 57 per cent.

"For the last 18 months we have been running a campaign called "Here's to beer" which we have funded and which promotes the entire beer industry not just our brands. It highlights the positive, social aspects of beer drinking, and we hope it will reverse the trend," he says.

With the rise of social networks such as MySpace, Friendster, etc, there is an opportunity to see if there might be a mutually beneficial relationship between the two "social" products/services.

For the next stage of the "Here's to beer" campaign, Mr Shipley says Anheuser Busch wanted to team up with known experts in online social networks, people that know what they are doing, people that know how to build communities.

I pointed out that BlueLithium is not yet an expert in this area, and it doesn't have a proven track record in building social networks.

"We were attracted to MingleNow's goal to have 2m users and its vision.  It is also focused on the 21 to 25 year old demographic that is also our target. And we know that that demographic doesn't like direct marketing so we are trying a different approach with MingleNow."

There is a promotion called "Clink" that encourages people to upload photos of themselves clinking beer glasses with others. Those with the most photos win prizes and trips.

Mr Chahal says that the Clink promotion plays well with MingleNow's viral expansion strategy.

"We are not spending much money to market MingleNow, we believe it should grow virally so that it becomes a key part of people's communities. We have been to venues and have taken pictures of people and uploaded their photos to MingleNow. That's a great way to get people to come to the site, to register, and to start using it."

The contrast between Mr Chahal's designer blue suit, and his more conventionally dressed clients, perfectly illustrates the sharp contrast between the older worlds of marketing and promotion, and the new emerging forms of online promotion. And that is precisely why BlueLithium is building MingleNow, to discover those new forms advertising.

"MingleNow is not about traditional online advertising, using banner ads, etc. It is about mining the data to feed back into our advertising network," says Mr Chahal. "We believe that when we get to at least 2m active users, that will create a data stream that will be very useful in improving our business."

It's an ambitious goal for this very young (2004) privately held company, that has already reached $100m in revenues.

What is the metric for success I ask  Mr Shipley? He points to his charts and the year 2005, "When this number goes up," he says.

It could potentially be a perfect partnership. After all, beer has helped build social relationships for centuries--maybe online social networks can now help build sales of beer. 

 

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MingleNow - social networking that mingles online and offline

I just got an early briefing on an interesting idea for social networking coming out of BlueLithium, the online advertising agency headquartered in San Jose, CA. It's an idea developed in Blue Lithium Labs, the R&D component of the...

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April 25, 2007

The Metrics of Influence: BuzzLogic Tracks The MediaSphere

Brand management is a tricky thing. How do you know who is blogging or writing about your brands, and if the sentiment is positive or negative? There are millions of online "conversations" happening every day.

BuzzLogic, based in San Francisco has developed tools that allow corporations to track conversations across thousands of online sites, blogs, mainstream media and anywhere else online, in almost real-time.

And those tools can also determine how influential a site, a blogger, a writer is. And who they influence. After all, there is no sense in galvanizing a response team to an unfavorable post on a blog if its influence is zero.

The company recently completed its Series A funding, raising an impressive $9.6m after bootstrapping the venture for more than two years. "Its good to have a salary," smiles Rob Crumpler CEO. It is also good to have the validation that a VC investment brings.

BuzzLogic recently moved out of beta and in mid-April launched its BuzzLogic Enterprise service. More than 160 customers, many Fortune 500 companies, collaborated with BuzzLogic in the beta phase to refine the service.

"Companies are interested in knowing about themselves, how they are perceived and how their products are perceived," says Mr Crumpler. "And companies want to be able to spot potential problems before they grow into much larger issues."

There are many examples where a complaint online can mushroom into a major public relations disaster. Jeff Jarvis, a prominent New York blogger and his complaints about Dell is one such example.

The company's two key features are its algorithms and its visual display of the results which gives users an excellent view into the influence of a particular site on a specific topic.

Todd Parsons, the chief product officer explains: "Just because someone is influential within one sector doesn't mean that they are influential in other areas. Our algorithms can analyze influence and allow companies to focus on those sites that really matter. We can also track the rise and fall in influence of a particular site."

The algorithms cannot measure sentiment, but users can quickly tag online content according to positive or negative sentiments, which can be shared with colleagues.

Email alerts will warn of possible trouble in real-time. But each customer applies their own response. This can include contacting people and also getting involved in the online conversations.

BuzzLogic's technology also learns from its users, which should mean that the service continues to improve over time.

Foremski's Take: BuzzLogic's visual presentation of its data is excellent. The visual data is presented within a user interface that provides a view into who is participating in each conversation, over a specific period in time, alongside summaries of the content.

It is a service that could be used in many ways, not just for brand management. It could uncover new types of buzz bubbling up that could provide business opportunities for some companies. And it can also be used to test the effectiveness of a public relations campaign.

The role of search engines is one that is not yet part of BuzzLogic's measurement. Search engines can dredge up negative comments time and again, and can help sites gain influence despite other factors.

Services such as BuzzLogic's can give organizations an insight into how they are perceived without requiring focus groups. But most organizations don't yet know what to do with such data and what the appropriate response should be. But they will figure that out over time.

[Wells Fargo should take notice...]

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September 21, 2007

3-dot Weekend . . . Social media and IT; There are iPhones and non-iPhones; Gaia hackers upset kids

Social media and IT . . .

If you missed my panel on social media at Intel Developer Forum, you can watch it here. You can find out how Intel has been using blogs and wikis. It is always interesting to see how a very large and established company such as Intel (Intel is a sponsor of SVW) is able to change and embrace social media - it is not an easy process. We also had an Intel lawyer on the podium.

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iPhone religion . . .

I meet a lot of people and many of them like to talk about their cell phones and then go on to tell me why they don't have an iPhone, and/or don't need one. This is interesting because these are unsolicited and unprovoked comments. It is as if just the presence of my iPhone stirs some pangs of guilt or justification.

Let me say this: I like my iPhone, but I'm not religious about it, but many people are religious about their non-iPhones. Which is interesting.

My response is this: think of the opportunity cost to you in your business and professional life. Waiting for another price reduction or until your contract comes up for renewal makes sense if you are the average consumer. It makes no sense if you live and work in Silicon Valley, if you are in media, in PR, or are a developer, or an investor. Saving a hundred or few hundred later, will cost you bigtime now because you will be behind in experiencing and being experienced with this platform.

The iPhone is a media delivery platform of a unique kind. My colleague at TechOne Steve Gillmor, says this:

The iPhone has effectively replaced my laptop for much of my working day. The extent to which I can create the necessary metadata to do my various jobs determines what applications I use.

The iPhone does have problem spots but they are mostly software fixes--it will get better very quickly. What is the cost to you in not having experience with this platform? It is far more than saving a few bucks.

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Blue moon . . .

Lunarr invitations. Let me know on Facebook (send me a friend request) if you'd like to check out this unique collaborative platform created by two Japanese entrepreneurs based in Portland, Oregon.

Lunarr: A Once in a Blue Moon Company with a Unique Collaborative App

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Gaia hackers . . .

My 13 year old daughter Sarah is very sad this week, someone hacked into her Gaia Online account and stole all the things she had collected from over a year's worth of work, and erased all her friend info and other malicious damage. I did some searching and there are several sites that teach others how to hack Gaia user accounts.

I sent Sarah this to cheer her up . . .

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October 8, 2007

Facebook Gold Rush Continued...Graphing Social Patterns - the Business and Technology of Facebook

Graphing Social Patterns If you don't yet have a Facebook app representing your business, you should get one before the white noise of millions of Facebook apps drowns yours out.

This week in San Jose at the Holiday Inn Monday and Tuesday is the Graphing Social Patterns - The Business and Technology of Facebook conference. The focus is on developing apps for the Facebook platform.

What is not yet clear is how some types of businesses will make money through Facebook. What is clear is that being among the first Facebook apps is important and that the "build it and they (revenues) will come" approach is the best one because the cost of building Facebook apps is not that great. Rising above the noise is very important.

Being among the first Facebook apps means that you can take advantage of the viral opportunities that Facebook provides because of the distribution channel through people's relationships with other users.

Relationship Platforms

"Social" platforms in this context are better represented by the term "relationship" platform because of the mixture of personal and business networks that get mixed into people's Facebook contacts. For example, I accept any "friend request" because of the very public nature of my work. But others are very strict about such requests and limit their Facebook contacts.

However, increasingly Facebook is becoming a very mixed "social" platform as many people mix family, friends and business contacts. But it should become fairly easy for users to segment their relationships as new apps come along.

The Unified Super-Social Graph?

reid_hoffman.jpg Currently, Facebook seems to be emerging as the top dog social network, also called a "social graph." Reid Hoffman, founder of LinkedIn, said at the Graphing Social Patterns conference,"It is likely that there will be many social graphs, family, religeon, business. I'm not a big believer in just one social graph. It is very unlikely."

However, Mr Hoffman's scenario doesn't preclude one host of many social graphs, which Facebook is currently well positioned to provide.

Mr Hoffman said the challenges of social apps is to find something that is sustainable and can stay ahead of "me too" type applications.

He added that the economics of the Facebook platform are not yet clear but could become clearer as the platform evolves. He points out that there will be massive competition:

-Someone will try to give away anything you charge for.

-At least 3 people will copy anything that works.

-Competition will come from companies and individuals.

-Newness is extremely important and a challenge for developers.

If Mr Hoffman is right, that doesn't bode well for the economics of the Facebook platform.

Check back for more reports from the conference plus video is also coming via TechOne.

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Graphing Social Patterns - Facebook Notes Morning Session

Graphing Social Patterns [From presentations...]
Charlene Li - Forrester Group

Example of bad Facebook ads: Jeep Wrangler ads not good.

Behavioural data is more valuable than demographic data. MySpace offers behavioral data Facebook does not.

I haven't seen a great Facebook app yet.

Lance TokudaLance Tokuda - RockYou (a Facebook app developer.)

SuperWall took one day to design, implemented the next day, promoted with 100k users, after 3 weeks there were 2m users.

Some on Facebook are good at content others are good at distribution. Good to have a partnership.
Virality is going down slightly.

Can't do this on web, it is the virality that is important.

Best distribution platform 7 times better than Facebook but only 1 per cent succeed.

Amazon S3 services is good to use for Facebook apps. You only need to worry about database scaling, Facebook serves a lot of your pages.

SethGoldstein.jpg Seth Goldstein - Social Media


Advertising = Appvertising.

Facebook could provide the promise of personalized advertising because advert is tied to social data.

Facebook will provide new models of advertising that weren't possible until now.

You can ask questions across applications that can reach hundreds of thousands of people.

Need to build advertising specifically for social networks.

I was shocked how Facebook users provided information about themselves.

In our Food Fight application people earn virtual money by answering questions and then they can pay for food to throw. We found many would pay 20 times more for throwing "poop."

Can you make a business from throwing "poop?" People want to do things they can't do in real life. I don't do it and I don't think it is sustainable. But the engagement levels are out of control.

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Please see: The New California Gold Rush...

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Graphing Social Patterns: Notes on the Afternoon Sessions (updated through the day...)

Graphing Social Patterns [From presentations...]


Danny Sullivan

Danny Sullivan - Search Engine Land

From Search to Social.

3rd generational search is hitting right now. Focus is on specific topics.

Personalized search is part of what is happening now. When you search the results move up or down based on your previous habits, but it is done is a subtle manner.

Social search - Eurekster is a good example. Yahoo My Web is another example.

Facebook is not in the search business but they could be in the discovery business.

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Apps, Widgets and Viral Marketing panel moderated by Rafe Needleman, with Hooman Radfar from Clearspring; Giles Goodwin Widgetbox; Jeff Nolan, Newsgator.

Right now there is a lot of goodwill, you can learn and make mistakes, it's all learning. So it is good to do it now.

The Facebook platform is part of a much larger phenomena. Learn to optimize on Facebook to apply those lessons to future platforms.

Developing Facebook apps can take 4 weeks it doesn't have the richness of functionality, still issues with the platform.

Widgets have to be trackable, the widget itself is the advertisement.

Make widgets clear, simple.

We will have many platforms. There are many destination points.

Terms of service: Keeping to terms of service could putt some companies out of business. Users dictate what terms they will accept.

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Facebook ad networks and paid content distribution panel - Moderated by Jeremy Liew, Lightspeed; with Joe Hurd, VideoEgg; Ro Cho, Rockyou; Narendra Rocherolle, fbexchange; Philip Kaplan, Adbrite.

Brands are interested in getting involved with social platforms because of the viral nature of the platform.

We've seen Yahoo gain a lot of traffic from their Facebook apps.

Adbrite is getting a lot of advertising from Facebook developers, we have a separate ad channel for them. They have big budgets.

Brand advertisers like video ads on Facebook.

5k Facebook applications, and they are immediately handed a lot of personal data.

You can get millions of users for your applications cost free, and that has not been possible before.

Respect your users. It is a very sophisticated user base.

Facebook needs to prove itself as an ad network.

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Facebook Business Models & Monetization panel - Saar Gur CRV (moderator), Keith Rabois Slide.com, Scott Rafer Lookery, Oren Michels, Mashery, Craig Ulliot Where I’ve been.

Slide.com: We acquired all our users for free so we don't feel a need to make money right now but we believe we will be able to make money in 2008.

About 10 percent of Facebook activity is on applications. Maybe $1/2m to $3M a month goes to Facebook ads on apps.

Premium upgrades are probably the way to make money in Facebook.

Facebook needs a universal checkout account, a uniform wallet would be beneficial to a lot of people.

There will be new business models, there is a lot of room for experimentation.

Some people might have as much influence on sneakers within their groups as Michael Jordan has across markets.

Google placed top yielding ads at the top was done to avoid Overture patents said Scott Rafer.

Simple, social applications that are universal is the best strategy to ultimately monetize Facebook.

Please see:
Graphing Social Patterns: Notes from the Morning Sessions

The New California Gold Rush...

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October 9, 2007

Graphing Social Patterns Tuesday Morning Notes . . .[UPDATED]

Graphing Social Patterns [Notes from the Social Graphing Patterns conference in San Jose.]

Intro to Platform, Apps, & Metrics - Dave Morin, senior platform manager, Facebook. [Note: This is the ONLY Facebook representative at the conference!!!]

We are a technology company.

We now have 43m users, 225k per day are new, or 3 percent.

We are doubling every 6 months.

Over 50% users come every day.

We are 6th largest web site.

Facebook is largest photo sharing site. Not because of more features but because it leverages the power of the social graph.

Facebook is largest event site, larger than evite. Not because of more features but because it leverages the power of the social graph.

Best practices, using "photos" as an example:
-Profile box is not that big, not very necessary.
-Enable engagement, leave comments is very important.
-Mini-feed: We've noticed people aren't using it as much as we'd like them to.

We want to help developers get past the growth stage, allow engagement and then get to make money. These are things that are super important.

We launched the fbFund, rants to get developers started. We don't take equity it is about community.

We have 5,000 apps. We have 90,000 developers in the community.

80% of users have adopted 1 application or more. We could not have dreamed this growth.

These aren't just our users they are your users.

We haven't yet seen a whole new class of work applications. There are lots of opportunities there.

We are still a small company, just 300 staff, we still have a lot of work ahead of us.

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Building Facebook Applications with ASP.net, Silverlight, and Popfly - Dan Fernandez - Microsoft

Users are the stars, take good care of them.

The same way YouTube enabled sharing of videos, we want to do the same for consumers building and sharing applications.

Your software should build self-expression.

Popfly is free, client side file hosting, we don't do server side processing, works with open source AJAX Frameworks.

We built 40 Popfly blocks but there are now over 400.

Your application can live anywhere iframes is supported.

A demo of Popfly and how to deploy on Facebook, all done without coding.

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Facebook App Design: Elements of Style - Jia Shen, RockYou.

The viral spread of Facebook apps is 7 times greater than other platforms because of the API.

Think mathematically, who you are targeting and how people will see it.

Don't go through long development process, be quick. Release early.

Follow how many people click on it and other user behavior.

Use Google Analytics and other site stats.

Launch in phases, make sure it works, then go full out.

Aim for about 1k users to test initially.

Promote on ad networks.

Myspace is like a single-player game, Facebook is multi-player.

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October 10, 2007

Making Money From Building Social Media Around Illness

I recently met with the Experience Project, a startup that is creating social media support groups around various illnesses. This for-profit company recently launched its first online community called the Cancer Support Project.

Carol Lin, a well known CNN reporter, is one of the key evangelists for the Cancer Project. And the Experience Project plans to build many other social media sites around specific illnesses. The goal is to pay for the web site design and the infrastructure costs, etc, through an advertising model.

Pharma is spending huge amounts of money on general advertising on TV, radio and magazines. Online sites such as the Cancer Project provide far better targeting for pharma companies, potentially lowering their marketing costs.

Is it OK for a for-profit organization to make money off of often tragic illnesses such as cancer? Yes, I think it is as long as the monetization of that community is not taken too far.

A community sites such as CraigsList.org works well because the owners of this private for-profit site only monetize the jobs section, and parts of the commercial rental market. The rest of the site is ad-free even though most of the content is free-ads.

CraigsList's owners could commercialize far more of their traffic but they choose not to because they don't need the money. This has built tremendous user loyalty, and it is a strategy that keeps competitors at bay because CraigsList's mostly-free model doesn't leave much to compete over. It's a canny competitive practice and one that Experience Project should consider.

The backers of the Experience Project include an interesting group of angel investors, former tech guys now entering their 60s. They make small investments in medical related startups, which jump-starts those ventures, and allows them to qualify for various government grants and attract additional venture investments. (See the video interview for more info...) Those seed investments are able to leverage tens of millions of dollars in medical research and development. Smart investing.

Here is a collection of quick interviews I conducted at the recent launch of the Cancer Project in San Francisco which attracted a spirited and colorful crowd.

http://www.podtech.net/home/4320/building-online-cancer-support-communities

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October 12, 2007

Raining on the PR industry's parade...

I wasn't sure if I'd be able to make the Outcast PR After Hours party Thursday night because I had four back to back meetings and events. But I managed to catch part of it.

I've worked with Outcast for many years so it was good to see familiar faces. And it was also interesting to hear some feedback on my latest posts about the changing economic models for PR, such as my Wiley E Coyote post.

It was quite clear that I had hit a nerve with many of my PR contacts and hopefully they will have the courage to take our discussion online so we can share it with others. Some took my post very personally, as if I were attacking them by name, which I wasn't. I was pointing out clear economic trends, that's all. That's my training as a financial journalist, to follow the flow of money within industry sectors.

The world has changed for both the media and PR industries, except the media sector is a further along in experiencing the painful disruption of those changes. The PR sector will eventually go through similar painful changes. This is not a welcome message when the PR industry is booming, and hiring like crazy.

PR industry parade

The PR industry is happy because revenues continue to climb 9, 10 per cent and more annually. New media technologies offer PR firms new business opportunities, they aren't viewed as a threat. PR firms charge clients for additional services. New media/social media is a very good add-on business in the PR world.

But when clients realize they can meet their PR goals using new media approaches for far lower costs, then why pay for both? They won't. There many that already don't.

This is a trend that will be played out in different ways by different companies but its overall effect will be the same.

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October 25, 2007

Convos: Online Groups Simply Managed - Made in NYC

Thursday afternoon I met with Matthew Trush and JP Checa, co-founders of Convos, a New York city based startup offering a "Yahoo Groups on steroids" web based application.

Convos is an interesting application, with a clean user interface and the ability to add features through modules. It is built on Flash using Flex. It recently opened up its beta to the public prior to a commercial launch with a tiered pricing structure.

I asked them if they had a Facebook app yet, because I could see this kind of functionality would be great to help manage Facebook groups. They laughed when I mentioned Facebook, and said they don't have plans for one.

Mind the Culture Gap

Are we too Facebook obsessed over here, I asked? Probably was the answer. We talked about the different startup cultures of SF/Silicon Valley and New York. Everyone is laid back here, they said. Yes that's true, but don't be fooled, we're always on, it never stops.

The New York startup community is an exciting place to be these days, they said. Lots of tech meet ups, lots of networking, and lots of discussion about Silicon Alley versus Silicon Valley and which is better. Do we have the same discussion I was asked? No, we don't talk about Silicon Alley at all.

I do like Silicon Alley Insider, an excellent NYC news site. And I would love to spend more time in New York.

I'm always interested in how others view the SF/Silicon Valley culture and its ideas.

I sometimes find that ideas take time to travel. Publishing an idea happens at the speed of electrons but understanding ideas happens at a different speed.

When I worked at the Financial Times in the SF bureau we primarily worked with editors in NYC and London. I noticed that it generally took about six months per 3000 miles for ideas to travel and be understood. I termed it the Foremski Universal Constant of Kulture - for which there is no polite acronym.

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Meet the Convos team:
Date: Friday, October 26th, 2007
Time: 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM
Location C325, Cheit Hall, Haas School of Business
City: Berkeley, CA

http://blog.convos.com/home/2007/10/24/convos-coming-to-uc-berkeley.html

Friday October 26th - 2007 at UC Berkeley.

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October 29, 2007

California Gold Rush: This is why Facebook is interesting . . .

A few weeks back I spent a Saturday afternoon in Palo Alto crammed into a small room with a couple of hundred people listening to the stories of some of the early Facebook app developers. Believe me, it wasn't the way I wanted to spend my Saturday.

But the enthusiasm was fun to witness and it did feel as if we were all (and we still all are) at the beginning of something big. It was fun to see kids straight out of school suddenly rock stars in the nascent Facebook community, learning how to be entrepreneurs.

Whatever your personal and emotional reaction is to Facebook, (and many have told me it is a fad and worse) you have to take notice that you just might be missing out on one of the big stories of the next couple of years.

And you wouldn't want that, or would you? :-)

Take a look:

http://www.podtech.net/home/3977/how-to-succeed-in-developing-facebook-apps

Video: Tom Foremski Video Editor: Lee Cummings Feel free to use on your site or blog!

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Meebo Launches Battle For Developers Among Social Networks - Developers Face Platform Fragmentation Costs

Meebo, the chat social network company, celebrated its 2nd birthday Monday and launched an initiative that offers a generous revenue split with developers.

Unlike Facebook, which has thousands of developers but doesn't have a monetization infrastructure, Meebo is offering a 50/50 split with developers. And unlike Facebook, which welcomes any developers, Meebo says it will be very selective.

Meebo PlatformCalling all developers!
meebo is opening up its doors to developers and we'd love for you to help us create awesome multi-user applications that meebo users can use to connect to their friends.

http://wwwl.meebo.com/platform/

Foremski's Take: It's a good move because it ups the stakes in the battle to win developers that every social network platform faces. Without great applications, social networks believe that they will lose users. Meebo is limiting the number of developers into its market which means they have a better chance of making money than at Facebook where thousands of developers are competing (and annoying users).

Meebo's move will encourage other social networks to make competitive offers. Microsoft, for example, offers its Popfly development platform for free to developers, which includes commercial rights.

Developers are in demand, but these days they face the expense of developing for many different platforms, and supporting those applications. It is not enough just to launch an application in the online world, it must be monitored, and tweaked, and developed further if it is to be successful.

Also, developers that sign up for revenue sharing with social network sites, might be disappointed by the returns. The large advertising networks such as Google AdSense, Yahoo Publisher Network, and Microsoft, pay very little unless you have very high traffic.

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November 27, 2007

MSFT: Setting Up Facebook For Failure?

Tuesday evening I'm in Roy's fusion Hawaiian restaurant in San Francisco with an excellent group of journalists and industry people. The Conversation Group hosted the event featuring their clients and others, in a panel-type presentation.

The panel consisted of:
Om Malik, Editor & Founder of GigaOM
Jeremiah Owyang, Senior Analyst and Web Strategist at Forrester Research
Salim Ismail, Head of Yahoo's Brickhouse
Chris Heuer, Partner at The Conversation Group (moderator)Jeremiah Owyang

I'm seated in a good spot, between Jeff Nolan and David Spark. Spitting distance opposite me is Dave McClure, another favorite of mine. Unfortunately our end of the table is not very well behaved, in fact, most of the table fights for some of the conversation versus our esteemed panel, some of whom are paying for our dinner [which made for a fun evening].

We talked about social networks, and one question that emerged from The Conversation Group, [the PR agency representing some of the people there] was "how can marketeers involve themselves in our social recommendations?"

My answer is that there is no place for them at all, or if there is, they had better tread very carefully.

I will recommend things to my social network only on an occasional basis. Why should I spam my friends or allow Facebook to spam my friends about my consumer choices?

I would probably avoid any online service that seeks to make money from my recommendations, or that offers me a share of that monetization.

[How much money could I make anyway? It would devalue my recommendations to friends if I was seen to be making money.]

For now, Facebook works for me because it hasn't yet started to monetize my network, it provides a lot of positive value, and very little negative value. Once it does ratchet up the negative value by trying to monetize my "social graph," and if it does it in an offensive manner, then I will stop using it. Once I stop visiting my "social graph" on Facebook then that's it for Facebook's ability to monetize my network.

I think this could be the Achilles' heel of social networks--if you push the monetization too far--you will lose your networks.

If I don't visit my social network because the owners are trying to monetize the heck out of it, then they have lost.

I love businesses such as CraigsList and Dogster because they leave a ton of money on the table. They know that you have to provide ten times the value and more, as you pull out of the business in terms of advertising. And their users are loyal and passionate because of that.

Yet Facebook doesn't understand this yet--and it is on a slippery slope.

With MSFT's recent investment is it is now a $15 billion company but it doesn't have the revenues (yet) to support that valuation.

MSFT's investment could be setting Facebook up for failure. Because it forces Facebook to prove its valuation and the only way it can do that is by increasing the monetization of its service through advertising.

The negative aspects of being on Facebook are set to increase without any additional services that provide a positive value for Facebook members.

That means our experience of Facebook is likely to diminish in quality as it tries to justify its valuation.

Is MSFT setting it up Facebook for failure? It's an interesting strategy.

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January 16, 2008

iMantri: A New Social Network For Mentors

January is National Mentoring Month, a perfect time to launch iMantri.com, an online site using Web 2.0 features to build a social networking site designed to mentor employees, executives and entrepreneurs.imantri.com
Some more details from iMantri:

iMantri applies the best of both mentoring and social networking to create a non-hierarchical mentoring relationship based on individual competencies. This means a member can be both a mentor and a mentee and can share their gifts as well as tap into the wisdom of their peers.

- Fifty-five percent of respondents to a HR.com survey reported using professional networking sites, such as LinkedIn, to share best practices with colleagues.

-Forty-nine percent use professional networking sites to get answers to issues they are face on their jobs.

- Most mentoring programs are informal. They lack structure and continuity, resources and tools, a supporter network and a large enough pool of possible matches that inspires and guides mentees and their mentors.
iMantri’s core features include:

-- Competency Assessment
-- Goals/Issues based Mentoring
-- Mentor-Mentee Matching Engine
-- Mentoring Framework and Tools: Mentors will be able to define needs in detail, create a mentoring process and implement it using tools for planning, interactions, feedback, and rating.

iMantri is founded by veterans in the field of management and technology supported by domain experts from the fields of coaching, mentoring, training and leadership development worlds. The company is headquartered in Silicon Valley and is currently self-funded. The website is at www.imantri.com.

More:

What does iMantri mean?
“Mantri” (pronounced as “Man” “Three”) is a Sanskrit word and means a minister, wise man, a counselor, a trusted advisor and a mentor. (Think of Alexander the Great and his “Mantri” Aristotle.) In addition to Sanskrit, the word has similar meaning and connotation in other languages such as Malay, Indo-China, and Arabic cultures.
Who is behind iMantri?
iMantri is founded by veterans who’ve had experience in startups as well as in executive roles at corporations. The founders of iMantri have been thru the roller coaster of business and learnt along the way the value and importance of mentoring relationships – both formal and informal.

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February 6, 2008

Analysis: MySpace Seeks To Stem Silicon Valley Developer First Mover Culture

...Swift or slow initially it won't matter

Tuesday evening in San Francisco, MySpace unveiled a unique plan to win developers of social network apps. It said it would seek to eliminate some competitive advantages between large and small developers by holding back all application launches to the same day--one month from today.

"We want a level playing field and we think this will encourage quality over quantity," said Kyle Brinkman, GM of the MySpace Developer Platform. He wants small developers to have equal opportunities for success as the larger developers, which have the resources to quickly produce and distribute apps. Or maybe it is the small, nimble developers that will lose out to the larger, slower moving competitors?

Over on ZDNet, I asked if this "socialist-like" strategy would succeed. Does this Southern California based firm understand the developer culture here. Because the MySpace policy clearly clashes against the hard core, deeply embedded code of Silicon Valley's startup culture: speed to market brings massive rewards and creates formidable barriers to competition.

Silicon Valley developers have a deep understanding of the importance of first mover advantage. Startups know that being swift leads to long term success and shorter lives for competitors.

The MySpace plan is to curtail the rewards that first-to-market developers would capture. In the first month, Swift or slow it won't matter, all apps become available at the same time.

Mr Brinkman believes that this will create a democracy and a meritocracy in the MySpace developer community, where apps will succeed based on quality and usefulness.

Quick and dirty apps...

MySpace also said it will scrutinize each app before release to make sure it meets stringent privacy and decency standards. I asked Mr Brinkman about revisions to apps since developers are constantly tweaking their software. Every change will require re-examination.

I understand MySpace's concern about privacy and decency but this process of re-examining tens of thousands of apps creates a potential bottleneck. And paradoxically, it threatens the quality of MySpace apps.

Quick and dirty apps with few revisions will be seen as the most effective strategy. Constant improvement of apps is punished by delays due to re-examination of the code. Again, this is counter-culture to Silicon Valley's best practices in developing best applications.

Anti-viral...

There is also another interesting move: MySpace has weakened the viral distribution capabilities of social apps on its platform. On Facebook, some app developers have seen huge viral uptakes, hitting a million users within a week and tens of millions within a month.

These huge numbers, however, often have more to do with questionable distribution methods that exploit the Facebook communications infrastructure, The growth in users is certainly viral but not necessarily virtuous. MySpace is seeking to reward quality apps. But again, it runs against the grain of Silicon Valley's developer culture, which seeks to maximize and amplify any and all viral distribution opportunities.

It'll be interesting to see how this approach will work out. It is worth remembering that counter culture and counter-intuitive business strategies have succeeded many times in Silicon Valley.

Some excerpts from ZDNet and my conversations at the MySpace developer party:

MySpace will not seek to discourage copycat application developers. Popular Facebook apps such as Zombies, and others, can be cloned with impunity. I asked MySpace CTO Aber Whitcomb about this issue. “We don’t want to get involved in any copycat disputes, we will leave that up to the developers to figure out.”

...

Michael Cerda, CEO of Jangl, an SMS and telephony application developer, said, “We have negotiated deals with the major carriers, it won’t be easy for others to do the same. We also have negotiated deals with major advertisers, we already have revenues. And we have core patents.”
. . .

Jared Kopf from Slide and Adroll said he wasn’t worried about copycat competitors. “We will have the best Super Poke app on MySpace,” he predicted. Slide is one of the top Facebook app developers and raised a stunning $50m in January 2008, giving it a valuation of more than half-a-billion dollars ($550m.) [Slide Slides Into Some Cash - Brad Stone, New York Times]

. . .

Bill Cromie, co-founder and CTO of New York based Nabbr, a distributor of media widgets loaded with premium content, had an interesting perspective on the differences between the SoCal culture of MySpace, New York, and Silicon Valley/San Francisco. “New York and San Francisco startup cultures are more similar to each other than they are to Southern California. The difference is that people talk in big pictures in Silicon Valley while New York is more focused on show me the money.”


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February 26, 2008

Dinner With MySpace...

Tuesday evening I had dinner with MySpace CEO Chris DeWolfe and some of his top executives about the future of MySpace.

It was organized by the International Press Club and I will have more to say on this subject in the next few days. I think I can cast some insider perspectives about MySPace and its strategy plus also some great video... Watch this space.

Here is Chris DeWolfe and myself at a MySpace party at SFMOMA late last year, photo courtesy of Brian Solis, Bub.blicio.us and Futureworks PR.

Chris DeWolf+Tom Foremski - photo Brian Solis

Please also see: Culture Clash: MySpace at SF MOMA - Southern California Comes to Silicon Valley ySpace at SF MOMA - Southern California Comes to Silicon Valley

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April 17, 2008

Out&About: eBuddy - The "European Meebo" Launches In Silicon Valley

Ebuddy.jpg This week marked the US launch of eBuddy, which sometimes describes itself as the "European Meebo but much larger." This Amsterdam headquartered company provides web and mobile device based instant messaging platform that integrates MSN, Yahoo, Google Talk, MySpace and AIM all into one interface. I met Jan-Joost Rueb, CEO and Mindy Hull, head of marketing and communications at eBuddy.

Mindy and I used to work together at the Financial Times so it was good to catch up and also hear about eBuddy. In February, the company raised 6.5 million Euros in a series B round. Those Euros are going to be used to expand its already large footprint:

• 12 million monthly global visitors

• 1.5 million new network users added every month

• 1.2 million unique mobile users per month

• 1.3 billion+ advertising impressions per month

• Google Zeitgeist 2007 Report: #7 fastest rising keyword search (global)

Meebo has done well but it had better watch out...there's a new kid on the block and with Euros in the bank!

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